ATC SCM 19 V2 Review, when midrange resolution is #1 priority!

I appreciate you taking the time to write such a nice message. I'm happy to hear you enjoy my style!

@@NemoPropaganda Keep up the great work. I can't emphasize this enough.

Let's put it this way:
His 2-way crossover is 2nd to none.

"Hello and welcome to the channel. I review audio gear with a focus on subwoofers for 2ch music. Please do keep in mind my reviews are based on my personal experience, with my ears, in my room, with my associated equipment. Audio is like food, we all have slightly different taste and sometimes the mood you're in can even have an impact. Ultimately i do this for free and for fun, this is a hobby after all and it's supposed to be fun."
I rest my case.

If your subjectivity is crap, so is your objectivity. Conversely, if your subjectivity is gold, so is your objectivity.

aye! always nice to hear from peopel that have also heard the products :) glad you agree! Both are really great options but as you said either one really needs a great sub!

glad you found it helpful!

Many thanks!

Great to hear! The SCM11 really are the perfect neutral speaker!! Do you use a sub with them?

I feel like 32w tube power is like 50+ watts solid state power :D

​@@NemoPropaganda Completely agree - this was one of the only tube amps that drove it and drove it so well that I bought it :-). The amp was an Audio Space Nova M34. Audio Space is an old hand at tube amps and they actually use ATC speakers to voice their amps. They are a fantastic combo!

Much appreciated!

But does the ATC not aound bright?

ahahaha, nah I wouldn't say that, that's a level of detail that is beyond anything I want personally but yeah some people like that level of detail.

I'm not really a dac expert but I'm really enjoying the new LAiV uDAC, I find it to be an overall upgrade over my Ares2 and Ares 12th, I don't own an Ares 15th so I can't comment on that one specifically. The LAiV uDAC is giving me all the beautiful sound both of my ares gives me but with a little more resolution at all frequencies. If you want more dac advice check out soundnews or iiwi on youtube. Those guys review way more dacs than me and are really great at it.

CHoco has a little more sparkle & treble energy than H190. CHoco is more showing resolution while H190 is more smooth overall. Both great, do keep in mind the H190 also has stereo preout so you can add a poweramp or subwoofers if you wish while the EMEI does not. H190 remote is also a lot nicer.

couldn't really say, I have not heard the H400.

The speaker doesn't have a lot of bass so it's a little hard to talk about it but yes it's more towards accuracy, any description we can use for accurate bass the SCM19 has it.

Btw my the scm20aslpro needs a sub. There isn't much down below.

He said that in the review

I don't know, I can only talk about products I have reviewed.

yeah, 100% agree! The crazy thing is their higher end powered stuff has very powerful bass so they def know how to give a speaker some serious bass, they just opted to keep it light on the SCM range.

Is the SCM20 a successor of the 19? Or just a different model?

@@cmessi Might just be the powered version but I really don't know

absolutely yes, my room is smaller so I used these with a T7x mostly.

I havn't heard the Rubicon or the H400 so I can't really help here.

I do not believe there is a relationship between subwoofers and imaging, I don't know what reviewer made a comment to make people think that but it's not from anything I've ever said. Subwoofers will create a larger sense of scale though and duals certainly will do that more than a single. The T5x is a great sub and I think they sound best in pairs for sure so def get a second if its in the budget.

Subs wont affect imaging. However with two subs you can equalize room modes by placing the subs in the right places.
Another improvement is to use EQ to adjust the response in the bass (up to around 300hz).
I know Rel have a very special idea about how the sub should be integrated in the system. But this has no grounding in actual research at all.
For subs a mono implementation is the best with a crossover at 80 hz. One can play around with the crossover point but theres really good reason for that 80 hz crossover point (hence why Dolby and THX use 80hz).
If not using EQ a sealed box sub will integrate easier with the sealed stand mounts like thes scm 19 (has to do with the phase response difference between sealed an bass reflex boxes). However a sealed speaker matched with a bass reflex sub is less of an issue than the reverse..

I don't review pro audio products, no experience with them.

@@NemoPropaganda its just that ATC nake pro gear and Genelec do make speakers aimed at the HI-Fi market - ATC make some really nice active loudspeakers - same as PMC 🙂

@ I'm aware of that but I don't review pro audio gear, it doesn't matter who makes it.

I don't have any plans to review that one at the moment, maybe in the future.

Did he do a review of them?

I don't review discontinued gear that predates my channel.

I have heard the old ones. They are not as refined as the V2. The frequency response on the old V1 is all over the place.

@@soumyajitdeb3943 How does that sound, frequency response all over the place?

@cmessi Check the ASR review. The frequency response is all over. My personal issue with it was the Vifa tweeter. It was really piercing on the ear. The ATC inhouse tweeter is a massive upgrade!

Very similar in that both really showcase midrange resolution, the Fritz is a tiny bit more relaxed in the treble and has much more powerful bass while the ATC can get much closer to a wall and has a much more robust cabinet with better fit & finish.

yeah I feel like I highlighted that in the video, it's even in the title. I'm not sure what more convincing you think I need.

​@@NemoPropagandaIndeed that it was well pointed out. Perhaps the premium to fork out for the 19s is unjustifiable for many. Yet, a few rounds of listening will definitely convince one to get the 19 in favour of the 11 with better midrange & low end performance.

@ not everyone will want the improved resolution of the 19 though, if someone listens to more average recording quality music they may prefer the more forgiving nature of the SCM11 or if someone is using more reasonably priced amps the SCM11 may also sound better so it's not as simple as the 19 being better, yes the 19 is better overall but that doesn't mean the more 19 is the right choice for everyone.

I've heard them at a show, very impressive stuff!! They could easily replace an entire system. If I was ditching my rack and going powered ATC would be on my short list.

you're welcome to remind us all what KEF bookshelf speaker is in this price range???

Well i would liked to hear how you compare them with R3meta which might not be in the same price range but if someone is considering upgrade it might help with understanding better what they are gaining, right? At least this is how i think...Most people dont just jump to 3-4k speakers...its a journey..you start with 1k then you go to 2k and think ok this is all i wanted i have fidelity clarity stage base but in few years you are thinking ok what else might be there will those 1-2k on top bring me more or it will be just a slightly difrent voicing not exactly better in every stage but maybe just slightly better mids only and so on....

no need, just buy the ATC SCM19 and carry it around your home all day, you'll be fit as a fiddle in no time :D

when there is a lot of midrange resolution your connected equipment and recording quality start to matter, this speaker should not sound harsh unless it's paired with the wrong gear.

@@NemoPropaganda Used the Atc sia2 150watt amp. Talked to the dealer about Atc and he had the same opinion of these Atc 19 We agreed on the exact same word. Had the 100 too, thats another thing.

I don't understand the question

Salad? YUK!! Give me steak or give me death! lolol